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//Tsunamis and house fires! What the heck do I say to this? Where’s God now pastor guy?!?

I got an email this afternoon from a good friend. “Jon, you’re pastor guy. So in one week, Tsunami in Japan and 7 children die in a house fire in Perry County. What am I suppose to tell my family members who already don’t buy into the God and Jesus thing?”

So bear with my quick and spontaneous response, unfiltered grammar, and typos.

Dear broken confused heart,

We don’t have a good answer for suffering if we are expecting to answer God’s detractors in a way that somehow leaves everyone wanting to know God.  But in brief. 1. Read Romans 8. God did not create this world to be like this. It says creation is groaning. Creation groaned at 3 am this morning in Japan. This world is broken  shell of what God intended it to be.  Why? In a biblical view, there is a direct correlation between Creation and Creator. When the Creation chose independence from God it didn’t just affect their own little lives, it threw all of Creation out of whack. It disrupted everything. It’s like it set off a tsunami of brokenness in this world because there was a cosmic disharmony now between God and His creation.  So it unleashes cancer, it unleashes a natural order where things atrophy and run down and wear out. So wiring in old farm houses wears out and short circuits and burns down a house with 7 sleeping kids.  Where is God? Weeping. Suffering. Hurting. How do I know? God knows what it’s like to lose a child? He lost his child in a fire. Scripture says Jesus descended into Hell in the days between his death and resurrection.  God suffers with us.

1. the world is broken and not what God created it to be.
2. God knows what it’s like to lose a child.
3. this broken world gives birth to pain and tragedy, yet God is not absent from it.

What is the alternative? No God? Nothing has any meaning. Everything in the universe is random and totally accidental and has no real point. Nothing has a point. So make money, make your kids and family your idol and put all of your hope in them. Place all your hope and find meaning in your job. Hope that you have a good life. But if you don’t have a good life and your kids don’t turn out right, and your job doesn’t turn out, and your marriage doesn’t turn out…you have nothing but bitterness and contempt for a world that randomly and accidentally gave birth to your tragic life.  Or you are born in Japan, your life is swept away, your children die, and there’s no hope. There’s no seeing them on the other side of eternity.  There’s just empty pain and loss and dealing with a seemingly cruel impersonal twisted world.

3. Romans 8 says this waiting period is when God is raising up those who are revealed as Sons and Daughters of God. Which means, instead of just an empty cruel world of meaningless suffering and pain unless you are the 1% of the world who has money and a good life with no tragedy, pain, and loss. It’s only 1% of us that have that. We just think it’s most people because that’s the fishbowl we swim in here in America. Spend time in Sub-Saharan Africa or Haiti and tell me you think life should just work out in your favor.

Romans 8 says God is not only suffering with us, he’s also raising up a force of people who so align their lives with his heart and kingdom that they rush out to help strangers who have been brutalized by nature or violence or whatever.  There is nothign in Secularism that has the power to shape human beings (long term) to de-prioritize money, tribe, comfort, ease, to embrace suffering people, and concern themselves with the hurt of the world or love and die for their enemies. Secularism doen’t have the power to do that in the human heart.  Not long term at least.

God is doing something about it. he’s binding the hurts, he’s wiping tears, he’s providing strength, and he’s doing it through his Spirit and his Church.  See Rev. 21:1-7

Hope that helps. This pastor guy doesn’t have magic answers. I have a framework of hope to give people in light of the alternative.  I have a person to point people to in Jesus in light of the mystery and unknown.  I have a community of love and grace formed by God to invite people into to be nurtured by God en-fleshed in His people in light of the loss and seeming injustice of it all.  Outside of that I have nothing to offer!

Peace,
Jon Hand

//Suffering and Hope

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Week 2: Suffering and Hope

February 14, 2010
Pastor Jon Hand
Romans 8

Podcast Listen to Sermon: Suffering and Hope

Questions for you to ponder during today’s talk.

  1. Is hope growing in you?
  2. According to the bible what ultimately causes suffering?
  3. The early Jesus followers risked death and died taking care of the sick during the plagues of Rome? How did their hope motivate them to make such a sacrifice for people who didn’t even share their beliefs?
  4. How is hope demonstrated in your life?
  5. How is lack of hope demonstrated in your life? The only way to tell is to reflect on what happens to you when you are stressed, in a crisis, experience loss, or deep disappointment.
  6. How could your family, your career, your church, your marriage, your attitude, your relationships be different if you were growing in hope?

Book:
Where is God when it Hurts–Philip Yancey. This is a classic book on suffering, God, good, and evil? It seeks to cut to the heart of the classic arguments about God and suffering. How can God be good and allow suffering? How can God be all powerful and not stop it? Ticked at God or know someone who is because of suffering in their past? Read or recommend this book.


Community Group Discussion Guide

Getting Started

  1. Consider the following quote: “Hope in a glorious future gives us a deep and driving motivation to persevere through present difficulties and to make the hard, almost impossible decision to continue on our narrow path.” Do you think this is true? How have you seen hope sustain and motivate someone who was suffering? Have you experienced this yourself?
  2. How can having a personal hope in God change our attitudes and motivations when times are tough?

From the Book

  1. Read Genesis 2-3. God originally created us to be in relationship with Him, but our disobedience has caused a break in that relationship. How has this resulted in suffering? How has your own broken relationship with God resulted in suffering?
  2. Read Romans 8:18-32. What is the hope and expectation that Paul is writing about here? What resources does God provide us with as we wait hopefully? What is the anchor of our hope?

So What?

Take some time to consider God’s vision of the future. What will it be like to have a new body, free from decay and disease? How wonderful will the world be without violence and destruction? What will it be like to live without fear and anxiety, and in a very present and real communion with God? Allow God’s vision of a new body, a new earth, and eternal goodness to grow in you a longing for that day. May that hope carry you through the temporary trials you experience here and now.